The whole idea of the Russians playing as a team versus the Americans being individualists was terrific, which made me want to bring all - everybody back at the end when we were talking about that, and just various things about the guys on the elevator when they're discussing how she's an orphan, so she's just like them. Anya and I would talk about her as a creature. Known as "one of the most reliable and highly-paid screenwriters in the business", Frank received two Academy Award nominations for Best Adapted Screenplay for Out of Sight and Logan. And we're - can we make this work? âThe Queenâs Gambitâ has both those hearts, and both are racing. But there was a little corner of the lobby, this little nook, and there was a chess board set up there. So this is a person who's isolated herself the whole time. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. How did you do this in a way that was both interesting and true to life? She's sort of lived her own life. He is a writer and producer, known for Logan (2017), Out of Sight (1998) and The Lookout (2007). And it's changing every day. And it's interesting because Bruce Pandolfini, who is one of our chess consultants, along with Garry Kasparov - and Bruce is a well-known chess player and chess teacher. The Queenâs Gambit creator Scott Frank to reunite with Anya Taylor-Joy on new period drama. She is, after all, still a young woman in school. It gets old really quickly on screen. It's like watching someone angry or grief-stricken. And, you know, it's been - we've had these weird historical things. It's so unique and different that it's difficult to put into words. And he was taking a still of this chess board with this arm chair in the background. I needed somebody whose face you just couldn't stop studying, who was just fascinating. [Expletive] you. And I do understand certain things that are interesting about chess. And it reads - it's a real page-turner, and it almost reads like a thriller in many ways. So you just don't know. There's usually a photograph or a painting or some image that I land on at some point where I say, OK, this is the show, or this is the film, and, you know, this is our palette. I think the - I think Alma is confused as well and trying to sort it out. I feel safe in it. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #1: (As character) Orphaned by yesterday's collision on New Circle Road, Elizabeth Harmon surveys a troubled future. Synopsis. And maybe I kind of failed. FRANK: Well, I think you're talking about then versus now (laughter) because it's very different. And he spent a lot of time with him working on the book. The Queenâs Gambit is streaming on Netflix. I really felt like this was a complete story, and I liked the way this ended. I'm Terry Gross. But a wild night sends her into a self-destructive spiral. But I learned much more talking to Garry and Bruce as we went forward. That's what family does. And so there's - and the orphanage. And they formed a bond as kids in the orphanage. I just thought it was amazing. (SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, “THE QUEEN'S GAMBIT”). Same with Russia. FRANK: It's a kind of involved answer because it was my biggest fear. And she, you know, just wants what she wants. And this felt like the ultimate expression of that theme. GROSS: We're listening to the interview our guest interviewer Arun Venugopal recorded with Scott Frank, co-creator, executive producer and director of the Netflix limited series "The Queen's Gambit." TAYLOR-JOY: (As Beth Harmon) You're, like, my guardian angel. VENUGOPAL: So you mentioned some of the grandmasters that you could lean on or you, I guess, employed quite actively for the series. And Benny, when he tells her the speech about playing as a team, what he's really saying is, you can't be alone forever. GROSS: Scott Frank is co-creator, director and executive producer of the Netflix limited series "The Queen's Gambit." And when I made "Godless," I remember I was mortified if anybody didn't watch it on at least a big-screen TV. ARUN VENUGOPAL, BYLINE: Over the course of seven episodes, "The Queen's Gambit" tells the tale of Elizabeth Harmon, a young girl who is orphaned and who discovers by and by that she is also extraordinarily gifted at the game of chess. (SOUNDBITE OF CARLOS RAFAEL RIVERA'S "MOSCOW INVITATIONAL 1968"). VENUGOPAL: Early on, young Beth has to journey into the dark, desolate basement of the orphanage by herself. And even within the matches, I was very disciplined in terms of just how many specific games we saw her play. This path brings him face-to-face with his alter-ego: the Joker. VENUGOPAL: Often, Beth is really hard to read. If you're thinking of watching this show, just do it, you won't be disappointed. I mean, it's her greatest fear. He spoke with FRESH AIR guest interviewer Arun Venugopal. I don't go as much anymore. He spoke with FRESH AIR guest interviewer Arun Venugopal, who's a host and senior producer at WNYC in New York. And Bill Horberg, the producer, had worked with him before many years ago. Jolene is Black and is one of the few people in Beth's life who isn't white and doesn't navigate the rarefied world of competitive chess. We're thinking they're playing on paper chessboards with plastic pieces. And she keeps pushing people away and keeps behaving badly. Someday I might need you. The Queenâs Gambit is directed and co-written by two-time Academy Award nominee Scott Frank and executive produced by Frank, William Horberg and Allan Scott, who also co-created the series. It can get tiresome if you don't play against it. FRANK: Yeah. VENUGOPAL: And traditionally, we don't really get a lot of female characters like that, do we? And she comes back in the novel, and she's actually much more of the savior character in the novel than she is here. I'm not here to save you. And she's broke, so Jolene very generously offers to lend her the cash. He also created the TV series "Godless.". This is FRESH AIR. But it's not quite that, is it? But for me, you have a character who wants to isolate, who isolates herself, who can't help but push people away all the way through. It was a rental. VENUGOPAL: We expect the orphanage to be run by monsters - Ms. Ratched, right? VENUGOPAL: There's a nice exchange towards the end of the series between Beth and her friend Jolene. Elizabeth, 9 years old, was left without family by the crash. VENUGOPAL: How does a project like this take decades to make? In a Kentucky orphanage in the 1950s, a young girl discovers an astonishing talent for chess while struggling with addiction. There's an emotional payoff there, and it was a really wonderful thing to mine. I'm here because you need me to be here. Starring:Anya Taylor-Joy, Bill Camp, Marielle Heller. He received Oscar nominations for writing "Out Of Sight" and the "X-Men" film "Logan." But I thought it would be ironic if, in the limited series, if she comes back but she's super successful (laughter). And "Out Of Sight" was plunked among all these other giant movies and things like that. Copyright © 2020 NPR. Both the orphanage and Russia, for example, there's not a lot of color. And I just really - I missed her, and I wanted her to come back. VENUGOPAL: You mentioned this photo you took for "The Queen's Gambit," something that inspired you. SOULE: (As Miss Jean Blake) How interesting. You must be a registered user to use the IMDb rating plugin. And I understand it, but I really thought I was writing against it, believe it or not, because I want to Jolene to come back. And I kept thinking about Douglas Sirk. Frank, Taylor-Joy, and company never stop telling both those stories at once, and the result is a fascinating portrait of a young woman fighting to become the person she wants to be, battling for victory and for peace. I feel like she comes back. She taught her - you know, kind of was just sort of a big sister to her more than anything there. You know, she is someone who - you sit across the chessboard from her, and you're instantly unnerved. So we were going to use production design to - as this kind of sleight of hand to make us feel like we're in Mexico. This hit drama from Scott Frank won Golden Globes for Best Limited Series and Best Actress (Anya Taylor-Joy). Scott Frank (I) Scott Frank. The tantalising Berlin-set period drama will fill the TQG hole in many people's lives. But it was - it changed everything. It also has all these other stars like Ving Rhames, Don Cheadle. Cast; Crew; Details; Genre; Cast. I think aside from the fact that they do drug the girls - there is that - they - you know, to keep them compliant, they - if anything, they're just sort of rigid, not evil, and very religious. FRANK: Not without ruining the first season. She was an orphan for reasons - for almost deliberate reasons on the part of her parents. Abandoned and entrusted to a Kentucky orphanage in the late 1950s, a young Beth Harmon discovers an astonishing talent for chess while developing an addiction to tranquilizers provided by the state as a sedative for the children. And I remember "Armageddon" came out the following Wednesday and did more in its opening four or five days than it did - than we did in our entire theatrical worldwide run. Was this review helpful to you? Do you think there's any rhyme or reason to why movies or series click with the public or don't? I thought so much of that was familiar that I could use that in a way that just kept flipping it on its head and not avoiding conflict because there's plenty of conflict in her life. We definitely leaned into all of that visually. FRANK: It's the series itself. And they've gone off, and they were both - you know, they started life - she was never her guardian at the orphanage so much as she kind of taught her how to hide the pills. The authoritative record of NPR’s programming is the audio record. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #2: (As character) And the father? Suddenly plunged into a confusing new life in suburbia, teenage Beth studies her high school classmates and hatches a plan to enter a chess tournament. And we came at it from a couple of different directions. VENUGOPAL: And I was wondering, how would you characterize Beth Harmon? Hell, I can barely save me. After a break, we'll hear more of their conversation, John Powers will review "Elizabeth Is Missing," a new television film on PBS' "Masterpiece," and Clint Smith will read a poem about growing up in the shadows of Confederate statues. And I cut it. Release year: 2020. That's what it was. And so you think the worst is going to happen, and it's not done to her by other people so much as she does it to herself. Orphaned at the tender age of nine, prodigious introvert Beth Harmon discovers and masters the game of chess in 1960s USA. The Queen's Gambit And so that's really, you know, what she's up against when she's there and this kind of misunderstanding of her and who she is. And tons of dialogue ideas, I got from Garry. And, you know, maybe "Raging Bull," I think, is kind of the watershed last sort of, you know, kind of brilliant American movie of that period before everybody began chasing "Star Wars" and chasing, you know, the 100 million mark then. And she comes back originally because Mr. Shaibel died, and she's going to go to the funeral. VENUGOPAL: Scott, the Black savior, or the magical Negro, is a pretty well-established trope in American fiction. Episodes The Queen's Gambit. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #1: (As character) Poor dear. So she doesn't trust anybody. I would describe myself as very average. That is, until she plays her first game of chess. Scott Frank may well be the Anti-Murphy.. Frank talks about consulting with grand masters and maximizing the drama of the game. And anyway, it was the board I noticed first. And he's been around for quite a while. And she's not very communicative to the people who care about her. Shaibel isn't the only one who kept after you all these years. FRANK: Yeah. I'm worried that by getting concrete in sort of the next chapter of her life, it kind of takes away what - for me, at least - was so lovely about this story. So - and people really - I remember sitting in a theater with my folks, actually, and watching - you know, we'd gone to the movies, and the trailers came up for what was coming out.
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